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“We tried again in 1812. Thomas Jefferson, the original Republican, described the acquisition of Canada as “a mere matter of marching.” This was incorrect. The United States launched eight or nine invasions of #Canada during the War of 1812, winning only one fruitless battle. The rest of the time, it got walloped.”

theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/

The Atlantic · Invading Canada Is Not AdvisableBy Eliot A. Cohen

Considering we are now in a trade war with the deranged lunatic fascist regime in the US, we in Europe need a real alternative to the American corporations Visa Inc. and Mastercard.
This needs to be ordered by the Commission or the Parliament to the ECB asap.
Also, a system this central & vital to the economy working ought to be arms-length owned and run by the ECB.

#TradeWar#EU#ECB

#TradeWar Retaliation Will Hit #Trump Voters Hardest

As Trump imposes #tariffs on products from countries around the world, foreign govts are answering back w/tariffs of their own.

#China has targeted corn farmers & carmakers. #Canada has put tariffs on poultry plants & A/C manufacturers, while #Europe will hit American steel mills & slaughter houses.

#economy #USpol
nytimes.com/interactive/2025/0

The New York Times · Maps: Where Trump Voter Jobs Will Be Hit by TariffsBy Lazaro Gamio
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I don't want to go *too* far in praising this article, because there are still a large number of problems with the way it minimizes the danger of Trump literally annexing Canada, but its existence demonstrates that at least one US media outlet (NBC) understands that Trump is not joking, or playing the angles here, and is in fact dead serious about taking over Canada:

nbcnews.com/politics/donald-tr

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone

"Speaking with reporters in the Oval Office, Trump first mentioned his love for Canadians, including his “many friends” like hockey legend Wayne Gretzky. Then he riffed about how Canada shouldn’t exist as a sovereign country before getting to what has increasingly become a fixation: wholesale annexation of Canada as a U.S. state.

"Canada only works as a state," Trump said Thursday. "We don’t need anything they have. As a state, it would be one of the great states anywhere. This would be the most incredible country, visually. If you look at a map, they drew an artificial line right through it, between Canada and the U.S. Just a straight, artificial line. Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago. Makes no sense. It’s so perfect as a great and cherished state."

"But why should we subsidize another country for $200 billion?" Trump continued, adding, "And again, we don’t need their lumber, we don’t need their energy. We have more than they do. We don’t need anything. We don’t need their cars. I’d much rather make the cars here. And there’s not a thing that we need. Now, there will be a little disruption, but it won’t be very long. But they need us. We really don’t need them. And we have to do this. I’m sorry."

As I said at the top of this post, this is by no means a perfect article; NBC spends far too much ink focusing on Trump's personal animus towards Justin Trudeau (who is no longer even the Canadian Prime Minister) and allowing named GOP officials to pretend they're confused by Trump's annexation plan even as they enact his orders to try and make that plan a reality. Crucially however, this report *does* make it abundantly clear that Trump is dead serious and his minions know full well that he's not joking:

"Trump has been unapologetic in his quest to conquer the Canadians — an effort he said in January would be conducted by “economic force.” The result has been a disintegration of the relationship between the U.S. and one of its closest allies, and a stock market plunge over fears of ever-increasing escalation of a trade war. Both Canadian officials and Republicans initially thought the president was merely joking, ribbing Trudeau — a longtime foil — after they met at Mar-a-Lago in November. It was after that visit that Trump first publicly floated the notion of absorbing Canada. Few think he’s joking now, and the Canadians have stopped laughing.

A source with direct knowledge of the discussions told NBC News that Trump is heavily focused on Canada in conversations with aides, who believe he is completely serious about making the country the 51st state — even with Trudeau out of power and a new prime minister in place."

Unfortunately, and despite this refreshing frankness, I have some problems with the sloppy journalism and credulous naivety with which NBC states that nobody knows where Trump is getting the idea to annex Canada from, including Republicans in his government. The fact is that MAGA-connected fascist propagandists like Candice Owens (and others) have been advocating for taking over, or even invading Canada since at least 2021-2022 for a variety of reasons; including natural resources, water rights, climate imperialism (although they don't use that term,) and even to protect their ideological brethren in the larger Canadian fascist movement from legal repercussions for their own slow-moving coup attempt in Canada, the so-called "Trucker Convoy." I genuinely have no idea if US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has any clue what Trump is thinking, but fascist media personalities in Trump's orbit certainly do, and this regime has already shown a willingness to outsource official policy from raving nazi dipshits on YouTube, so I don't think "where Trump is getting this idea from" is the kind of puzzle you need Scotland Yard's finest detectives to solve.

NBC News · Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyoneBy Allan Smith

#Canada - Carney to visit UK, France to build ‘reliable’ trade, security partnership

> Prime Minister #MarkCarney will travel to #France on Sunday and the United Kingdom on Monday to seek “reliable partners” in trade and security, a statement from the prime minister’s office said

> As the Canada-US relationship goes through a rough patch with U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs forcing economic pain on Canada, Ottawa will look across the Atlantic globalnews.ca/news/11083576/ca #UK #TradeWar #Trade

Global News · Carney to visit U.K., France to build ‘reliable’ trade, security partnershipBy Uday Rana

My dearest UK followers and fediversians.

Can someone explain to me the persistent reluctance from the UK of saying anything at all in defence of Canada?

I think Canadians appreciate the King’s subtle gestures, but as strong and independent as we are, we would also appreciate some more forceful pushback to Trump from our centuries old friends and allies, and particularly our former colonial master with and for whom we have spilled much blood.

Or should we internalize this not so subtle refusal and respectfully but truly strike our own path?

#canPoli #cdnPoli #tradeWar #trumpTariffs #Canada

cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-com

CBCAs Trump attacks Canada, Downing Street sticks to the sidelines | CBC NewsAs U.S. President Donald Trump keeps threatening Canada's sovereignty with his 51st state comments, British Foreign Secretary David Lammy is calling for unity — as the United Kingdom continues to avoid directly pushing back on Trump's annexation talk.

Canada reconsidering F-35 purchase amid tensions with Washington, says minister

> #Canada is actively looking at potential alternatives to the U.S.-built F-35 stealth fighter and will hold conversations with rival #aircraft makers, Defence Minister Bill Blair said late Friday, just hours after being reappointed to the post as part of Prime Minister #MarkCarney's new cabinet.
cbc.ca/news/politics/f35-blair #F35 #Tariffs #TradeWar #US

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Learned something new today! In that hour and a half or so between the time that Prime Minister Trudeau resigned and Prime Minister Carney was sworn in, Canada's leader was.... drumroll: 🥁

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Richard Wagner!
Also known as Boring Santa Claus.

OK... that last part is not true, he is definitely not Santa Claus, and just cuz he might be boring, doesn't mean he's not smart and respectful. 😜

Oh, and there was also a talisman delivered to Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, Anita Anand. It's the Seal of Canada.

Then they sang OH CANADA and left to play political hockey!🇨🇦🏒

PLAY BALL

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Nice to see a black Canadian, Arielle Kayabaga sworn in as Minister Democratic Institutions and Government House Leader.

She is 34, Refugee of civil war in Burundi

She will not have much to do unfortunately, as the expectation is the House will not sit before the Election but this is a promotion for her from Parliamentary Secretary to Small Business.

ourcommons.ca/Members/en/11050